Are these units brand new?
Yes
and no. They are created from pre-existing projectors made in the mid-70s.
But we do NOT use the projectors "as is". We strip the raw chassis down
to the metal and then machine and make extensive changes to them. Then
they are rebuilt using some original parts but also many specialized parts
we make in our shop. When we finish, they may look something like the original
projector on the outside, but inside they are totally different, designed
for the specific task of telecine transfers, and perform better than they
ever did new 30+ years ago. Think of us as the "Monster Garage" of telecine
units. :)
Why don't you build a new unit from scratch?
We
could certainly do that but it would serve no purpose other than to drive
up the final cost to you.
If the unit needs repair, do I have to send it back to you?
You
can, if you wish. We take great pride in our customer service and offer
lightning fast turn around on repairs. However, after polling many people
that previously used "all in one" telecine machines like the old Elmo and
Goko units, we recognized that there was great frustration when service
was required because the units were so complicated that only a specialist
could work on them and parts were hard to find. This made repairs expensive
and time consuming. We chose our projectors because they have very, very
few moving parts and are easy to service. All the parts are surface mounted
and easy to reach with a screwdriver. In fact, we encourage customers to
learn how to service their own units and have designed the units so that
parts are easy to find locally, such as Radio Shack and local hardware
stores, etc. Replacement parts are always available from us, as well.
They are designed for the average person with average skills and average
tools to self service and keep running for a long, long time. But, if you
prefer, we'll fix it for you!
Can I order belts, parts, LEDs, motors, etc from you separately?
Yes!
Any MovieStuff equipment customer can order replacement parts as needed.
However, we do not sell the components to non-MovieStuff customers.
Do I need to clean the film before transfer?
Yes. It is common for old film to be quite dirty and have wads of scotch tape where someone tried to fix a splice 30+ years ago. To protect your telecine unit and to protect the film, you should always clean and prep all footage before transferring. Failure to do so can affect performance of the unit, registration of the transfer, the life of your unit and risk damage to the film being handled.
A general cleaning guide can be found HERE.
We recommend Edwal's AntiStat film cleaner, which can be ordered from Amazon.com HERE.
Also
check the "Useful Links" section of this website for other resources.
Are your 8mm units dual 8?
Yes.
All our 8mm units will play super 8 and regular 8. We have no machines
that handle both 16mm and 8mm film.
Do your units have sprockets?
The
16mm units have sprockets due to the larger reels and higher torque. All
our 8mm units are sprocketless, which is easier on older film such as vintage
8mm home movies and the such. We can align the claw so that a unit is dedicated
to regular 8 or to super 8, if desired. But, in general, a dual 8 unit
offers economy and good registration. Click HERE for a sample movie that
was scanned frame by frame from Plus-X black and white by a customer using
a WorkPrinter and his own home video camera.
Do these units transfer sound?
The
8mm units are silent only but, using your own sound projector, it is easy
to record your audio separately as a wav file and use your NLE system to
manually synch what little footage you may come across. It is estimated
that Super 8 sound film represents less than 5% of the remaining market
for home movie transfers. Most 16mm sound film has a copyright that prevents
legally copying commercial footage but we do offer the Sniper-16 and CineMate-16
units with sound.
Can I use these units as regular projectors to view footage on a screen?
No.
These units have been extensively modified for a single purpose and will
no longer project.
Do I need a video camera?
Only
for both the CineMate and WorkPrinter units. You will need a digital video
camera (digital-8 or miniDV or HD). A 14x zoom or above is recommended
for ease of alignment. A minimum 12x optical zoom can be used but will
be a tight fit and a Hoya +1 closeup filter may be needed. If using the
CineMate-NTSC units, you will also need to lock your shutter speed at 1/60th
of a second. If using the CineMate-PAL units, you will need 1/50th of a
second. Most Sony pro-sumer and consumer cameras leave out 1/60th or 1/50th
shutter speeds, so check your camera menu to be sure. Also, if your camera
does not say what its zoom factor is, look at the front lens where you
will see numbers that read something like 3.5:35mm or 6.5:65mm, etc. Divide
the lower number into the higher number and that is your zoom factor. For
example 3.5 divides into 35 ten times so 3.5:35mm is a 10x optical zoom,
which is too short.
Why do I need a minimum 14x zoom?
Because
the camera sits about a meter (three feet) or so from the condenser lens
and you must zoom in on the postcard sized image it presents.
Can't I just use my 10x zoom and move the camera closer?
Not
really. The condenser lens requires a certain distance for proper alignment
with the "sweet spot". This is by design as to take advantage of the flatter
field inherent in longer focal length lenses.
What if I add a tele-convertor to my 10x zoom?
That
will allow you to zoom into the image more but you will no longer be able
to focus properly. You can use the digital zoom if the picture quality
looks okay to you though, but it is not recommended.
Will the WorkPrinter units work with my HD camera?
Yes
if you use the Velocity Box and the Velocity HD software. The WorkPrinter-HD
has the Velocity circuit built in so the Velocity Box is not required.
You can capture with the Velocity or Velocity HD software with the Velocity
Box. Or you can use the WorkPrinter-HD in the slow scan mode and use CineCap
to capture totally uncompressed using the Decklink card from Blackmagic.
Is it worth scanning my home movies to HD?
I guess that depends on who you ask! There is a common myth that there isn't enough detail in a Super 8 frame to warrant transfer to HD. This myth exists because
A) there are telecine companies that don't have HD technology
and because
B) on a per frame basis, the resolution of standard def video and Super 8 film is considered similar.
However, in truth, Super 8 has the edge because typical standard def video capture, editing and display formats can never reproduce the full resolution of a standard def broadcast camera, even if that camera offered the same or more resolution as an 8mm frame. So it's hard to compare the resolution of video to film since video goes through so many processes that degrade the image while the 8mm film that you view projected in your living room is the very same film that was in your camera, hence with no generational resolution loss.
Also, from a telecine standpoint, the way film and video capture detail is totally different. Video has a fixed pixel pattern. This means the pixels that make up the standard definition image are always in the same place from one video frame to the next. But film has a random grain pattern. This means that the grain or "pixels" of film are in a totally different place from one film frame to the next. These random grains each carry a bit of the detail that make up the complete picture and, at running speed, the random grains overlap each other on the retina of your eye to significantly increase the amount of apparent detail that you can't get from a single frame of film. This is called "accumulative resolution".
What is the final effect? Well, you probably have seen vacation road signs in a projected 8mm home movie that were unreadable on a single still frame but, at projected running speed of 16-18fps, the signage was perfectly readable. This is because film benefits from accumulative resolution that video simply does not. Because of its fixed pixel pattern, SD video has the very same, limited resolution at running speed as it does on a still frame. So if you can't read the sign on an original, uncompressed still frame of SD video, you won't read it any better when that video is playing at speed.
In the final analysis, if you transfer your 8mm home movies to standard def video, even with the very best standard def camera, your detail will be totally limited by the coarse, fixed pixel pattern inherent in SD video, not to mention the even more limited, compressed SD display formats. Of course, HD video has a fixed pixel pattern, too, but the number of pixels are so great and the pattern is so insignificant, that HD is like a fine silk stocking compared to the burlap weave of SD. Thus the accumulative resolution effect found in film can be more readily seen in an HD transfer than in an SD transfer.
And,
finally, ALL standard def cameras -even the most expensive- depend on a
fairly massive sharpening or enhancement circuit. If you have a technician
turn that circuit off inside the camera, the image is totally soft, out
of focus and 100% useless. Thus, any apparent sharpness you see in an SD
camera image is artificial, which can sometimes make the film grain over-inhanced
and can give the film a more "electronic" look on SD. Hi-def cameras depend
less on artificial sharpening because they have more pure resolution to
start with. While nothing beats looking at the original film, transfers
to HD look more like projecting your film in the living room, compared
to an SD transfer, and downconverts from HD are nothing short of stunning.
Click here for some sample images.
Can't I just scan my footage in SD and then scale it up to HD?
Of
course, but it won't look the same. It will just look like a much bigger
standard definition image, complete with visible raster lines and jagged
edges common to most SD transfers.
Is it possible to get 3CCD results from a 1CCD camera?
No.
You can get some pretty good results but you can no more get 3CCD results
from a 1CCD camera than you can get HD results from an SD camera. If there
was no difference, then there would be no market for 3CCD or HD cameras
and "The Tonight Show" and "David Letterman" would be shot by tiny $100,
480 line security cameras mounted on huge studio tripods. More to the point,
why would any telecine shop suggesting the possibilty offer both 3CCD and
1CCD options?
Is it best to transfer off the base side or emulsion side of the film?
Emulsion
side imaging has been the industry standard since Linwood Dunn invented
the first optical printer in 1929. Imaging through the base increases the
potential visibility of scratches and abrasions while excessive frosting
from cinched film can distort the picture and destroy detail.
But don't 35mm prints in movie theaters project through the base?
Well,
sure. And if you were paying $15 just to be entertained for 90 minutes,
then projecting through the base would be good enough. But if you were
paying to have all 129,600 frames of your 90 minute home movie archived
for posterity, wouldn't you or your clients want their money's worth and
demand emulsion side scanning? Since the beginning 8 years ago, MovieStuff
telecine units have always transferred off the emulsion side of the film
for maximum picture quality. It's simply the right way to do it.
Is there a screen in the WorkPrinter and CineMate units?
No,
the condenser lens provides a magnified view of the surface of the film
for maximum image quality. As a result, there is no screen-grain nor hotspot
associated with the various cheap "transfer boxes" found on ebay.
Can I just buy the condenser lens and use that with my existing projector?
No.
We do not sell the condenser lens separately nor would it work with your
current projector without extensive modification.
Will I see the entire image?
Yes!
The gates on all units except the standard WorkPrinter-16 have enlarged
gates (it can be enlarged, as well). Other projection units often crop
as much as 20% of the film frame. By the time the camera crops and the
television viewing set crops, one can lose 25-30% of the image. Not so
with our units.
Do I have to transfer in the dark?
Not
at all. The mi-Skan, QuickSilver, E-Z Scan and Sniper units are self contained
and there is no way light can affect the picture. The WorkPrinter and CineMate
units do use an external condenser lens but ambient light isn't an issue
since you are copying an actual, physical frame of film and not off a screen.
However, the condenser lens can pick up reflections in the surface of the
glass from the area behind the video camera so that area should be kept
free of light objects, monitors, windows, etc that might show up in the
transfer of darker footage.
Why do I need 1/60th of a second shutter speed with the CineMate units?
The
CineMates have special shutter blade configurations that will remove flicker
but ONLY if your camera is set to 1/60th. Likewise, people using the CineMate-PAL
will need 1/50th of a second.
Do I need 1/60th or 1/50th for the WorkPrinter?
No.
The WorkPrinters transfer frame by frame. As such, they have no shutters
at all. However, it is best to lock your shutter speed to 1/60th or higher
to prevent drift. HD cameras should use 1/250th or higher due to the rolling
shutters inherent in modern CMOS sensors. This is the case even if using
the HD camera in the SD mode.
Do I need a computer?
The
CineMate, mi-Skan, EZ Scan and QuickSilver realtime units do not require
a computer. The WorkPrinter, QuickSilver FX and Sniper units do require
a computer with the appropriate software which allows frame by frame video
capture.
What are the system requirements?
Best
to email for complete specifics but, in general, for the WorkPrinter-XP
units using CineCap, you will need Windows XP Home or Pro (no Vista), a
minimum of 512 megs of RAM, a high end processor and an internal Raid-0
drive configuration, which isn't expensive but it is unique. Without it,
your computer will likely fall behind during captures. You will also need
a firewire input. If using a Mac, your set up should be comparable in specifications
and speed to the PC requirements listed here. If using the new ScanStream
Sniper series or the Velocity Box, you will need a computer with the same
specs but no Raid-0 drive array. The ScanStream Sniper units and Velocity
Box will not work with a Mac, sorry. The Snipers and Velocity Box can work
on both XP and Vista platforms.
What is a "Raid-0 Drive Configuration"?
Most computers have only two drives; the system drive which is where the programs are stored, and the media drive, which is where the video is recorded. A computer with a Raid-0 has three drives. One is the system drive and the other two are synchronized by a Raid control card to form the Raid-0 array. The Raid card spreads the video evenly across both drives, which increases the data rate coming and going to the drives. For instance, two 100 gig drives will be seen by your computer as one super fast 200 gig drive.
NOTE:
For the WorkPrinter series, it is recommended to use basic ATA or Ultra-ATA
drives when creating your RAID-0 array. Use the classic two-drive set up
(not four drives). Do NOT use the new Serial ATA drives. They are more
expensive and seem to have problems with this application. ATA or Ultra-ATA
7200 RPM drives work fine, as long as your system drive is not on your
Raid. For the ScanStream Sniper units, or for WorkPrinters capturing via
the Velocity box and Velocity software, you can capture to any type of
internal drive, including SATA, as long as the system will sustain a streaming
capture without dropping frames.
I have a really fast computer and can record streaming video at 30fps on a single drive and I never drop any frames. Why do I need a Raid for the WorkPrinter when not using the Velocity Box and software?
Streaming
video at 30fps (or 25fps PAL) is easy for any modern computer to perform.
But streaming video has only two mouse commands associated with it; 'start
capture' and 'end capture'. However, the WorkPrinter units are not dealing
with streaming capture. Instead, every frame being captured is represented
by a mouse command that is placed in que and must be executed immediately
without delay. You aren't clicking the mouse for each frame captured, of
course, that would be insane. The WorkPrinter does that for you. But the
computer must still deal with thousands of mouse commands over the period
of only a few minutes and that increases the overhead tremendously. Though
some people report success with only a single drive, the only way to guarantee
that type of performance consistently is with a Raid-0 drive configuration.
Without the Raid, your system may capture while the film is in motion and
that creates blurred frames. Raids are cheap to install and increase volume
and performance. It's a good move to install one, even for regular editing
purposes.
Will the WorkPrinters work with both PCs and Macs?
Yes,
with the appropriate software capable of rapid stop motion capture.
Will the ScanStream Snipers work with both PCs and Macs?
No.
The ScanStream Snipers work only with PCs due to special proprietary PC
software.
What software will perform rapid stop motion capture?
We recommend the following:
CineCap
(for PC). CaptureMate (for Mac).
Also,
the Velocity and Velocity HD software will work with the WorkPrinter-HD
units "as is" or a regular WorkPrinter-XP in conjunction with the Velocity
Box.
Is the software included with the purchase of a MovieStuff telecine unit?
No.
We do not make nor sell the software. CineCap and Velocity (for PC) and
CaptureMate (for Mac) must be purchased separately and are available only
to MovieStuff customers that have purchased and received their telecine
units. Just contact us for the private purchase links after you receive
your MovieStuff unit.
Do I need a Raid with the CineMate, mi-Skan or Quicksilver real time units?
No.
In fact, no computer is required at all.
Then why would I want the WorkPrinter or Sniper series over the CineMate, mi-Skans or QuickSilver real time units?
The
CineMate, mi-Skan, EZ Scan and QuickSilver RT units are very, very good.
In fact, if you saw one of their transfers you might wonder if anything
out there was better. However, the WorkPrinter, QuickSilver FX and Sniper
units are better because they transfer true frame by frame. (click HERE
for more info) If you look at video frames from a WorkPrinter, QuickSilver
FX or Sniper transfer, you will see only individual film frames on each
video frame. If you look at video frames from any real time transfer, you
might
see pieces of two film frames on any given video frame. They look pretty
good when playing back at normal speed, but the lack of frame discretion
means the real time transfers won't be as crisp as the frame by frame transfers.
Just as important, such transfers will be interlaced with no option for
progressive display.
But if you scan frame by frame, don't you have to "slave over a hot computer"?
It's
a funny concept but the simple truth is that the scanning is automated
and I don't know anyone that watches a computer do anything. Just
capture all day long, set the Velocity or CineCap software to batch process
all the necessary speed changes, and let the computer do its work unattended
while you enjoy friends and family. The next morning you will have all
the interlaced or progressive footage you can handle to edit color, color
correct, make DVDs from, etc.
But isn't real time transfer more efficient than scanning frame by frame?
We
make both real time and frame by frame units but there is a difference
between "speed" and "efficiency". The best explanation can be found HERE.
In short, if you are going to scan directly to the end product, such as
a table top DVD recorder or tape deck, then real time is the way to go
if you are satisfied with a strictly interlaced output. But if you are
going to edit, color correct, author DVDs, etc on the computer, then scanning
automatically frame by frame is less labor intensive, offers the greatest
flexibility in playback speeds, and gives you the choice of interlaced
or progressive output.
What is the difference between interlaced and progressive and why should I care?
Interlaced
footage means that, say, 18 film frames (one second of film) is spread
across 60 fields of video (one second of video). This means that some video
frames will look like THIS due to frame/field combinations. Footage transferred
in realtime will always be interlaced. Even competing units that claim
to transfer frame by frame actually output only interlaced video. It will
look okay on an interlaced monitor but, on a progressive scan display like
a flat screen or computer monitor, interlacing can look pretty awful. The
only way it won't is if the display deinterlaces and drops one field, which
then cuts your resolution in half! TRUE frame by frame scanning found on
WorkPrinter, QuickSilver-FX and Sniper units gives you the option of outputting
interlaced or progressive frames that have no interlacing for full resolution
on both interlaced or progressive displays. This is more and more important
as CRT televisions are being replaced by el-cheapo flat screens that don't
handle interlacing very well or by more expensive flat screens and DVD
players that can be tripped up by the presence of interlaced patterns.
Total progressive motion isn't as smooth but will be compatible with all
display devices.
Do your units have a built in footage counter?
No
but since your clients want to know how much it's going to cost before
they give you the work, then you typically need to know how much footage
you have before you do the transfer. Knowing how much you transferred after
the fact can be useful, though. As such, the CineCap and Velocity software
will tell you the amount of footage you transferred in both feet and meters
and is accurate to the frame.
How long does it take to transfer 50 feet on a WorkPrinter compared to a real time unit?
For
8mm film, it is about 4.5 minutes on the QuickSilver-FX and Sniper units.
For the WorkPrinter, it would take about 8.5 minutes. So the QuickSilver-FX
and Sniper units are about the same speed as realtime while the WorkPrinters
are about half speed.
How do I get proper playback speed once I've transferred my footage from the WorkPrinter, QuickSilver-FX or Sniper units?
For
WorkPrinter captures using CaptureMate (Mac), you will need to apply speed
changes on your Mac NLE. For NTSC 15fps would be a 50% speed change, 18fps
would be a 60% speed change and 24fps would require an 80% speed change.
For WorkPrinter captures using CineCap (PC) or Sniper captures using Velocity
(PC), they can be set up to batch process the speed changes for hundreds
of clips automatically, which is much more convenient. Both CineCap and
Velocity do this using the industry standard pulldown patterns for interlaced
or progressive playback on PAL or NTSC, just like you would find on a very
expensive Rank telecine unit. Also, any .AVI file created by CineCap or
Velocity can be imported into most any PC or Mac NLE system for editing.
If I can change the speed, then why do I need different real time capture units? Can't I just capture with, say, the CineMate-20 or miScan-20 and slow the clip down later in my NLE system?
Yes
but it will look awful since there is no frame discretion and blended frames
will be evident on the altered footage. If using the real time units, one
should pick the unit that provides the proper playback speed for your home
movies.
What is the delivery time for your units?
Due
to the popularity of these telecine units, there is about a 45-60 day period
from the time we receive your funds until we ship, though every effort
will be made to get your unit out ASAP. Rush service with a guaranteed
ship time is sometimes viable, depending on schedule. All RUSH orders must
be scheduled prior to ordering and payment. RUSH orders are paid for with
either Cashier's Check (domestic) or wire transfer (international).
Do you ever have used equipment?
Normally,
no. However, we have received a number of trade-ins from people moving
up to our new Sniper-HD units. Call to inquire about availability and pricing
on used units. Also, we do not accept trade-ins on all units, so it is
best to contact us if interested.
For
all other questions, please feel free to email me or call me at 830-966-4664.
We
have an answering service that will take calls 24 hours a day and relay
the
message to me quickly. I will call you back ASAP.